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Witam, mam dość dziwny problem z pocztą i za cholerę nie mogę znaleźc żadnego rozwiązania. Co dziwne nikt nic nie majstrował przy poczcie ani też przy firewall, a jeszcze wczoraj wieczorem poczta dochodziła bez żadnego problemu. Dziś niestety większość serwerów odpowiada mi "Connection timed out" sprawdzałem czy to nie firewall czasami blokuje ale nawet po jego wyłączeniu nic się nie zmienia. Black listy sprawdzone i czysto. Co dziwne poczta na gmaila, yahoo, aol dochodzi bez najmniejszego problemu z tego co zauważyłem to problem jest wyłącznie na domenach z końcówką pl. Na serwerze zainstalowany jest DA i exim. Poniżej log z wysyłania wiadomości do wp.

                         1933 Exim version 4.82 uid=0 gid=0 pid=1933 D=fffdffff
Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 4.8.30: (April  9, 2010)
Support for: crypteq IPv6 Perl OpenSSL move_frozen_messages Content_Scanning DKIM Old_Demime
Lookups (built-in): lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmjz dbmnz
Authenticators: cram_md5 cyrus_sasl dovecot plaintext spa
Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral manualroute queryprogram redirect
Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore/mbx autoreply lmtp pipe smtp
Fixed never_users: 0
Size of off_t: 8
Compiler: GCC [4.4.7]
Library version: OpenSSL: Compile: OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010
                          Runtime: OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010
Library version: Cyrus SASL: Compile: 2.1.25
                             Runtime: 2.1.25 [Cyrus SASL]
Library version: PCRE: Compile: 8.20
                       Runtime: 8.20 2011-10-21
21:34:50  1933 Total 8 lookups
WHITELIST_D_MACROS unset
TRUSTED_CONFIG_LIST unset
21:34:50  1933 set_process_info:  1933 delivering specified messages
21:34:50  1933 set_process_info:  1933 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:34:50  1933 reading spool file 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54-H
21:34:50  1933 user=mail uid=8 gid=8 sender=xxx@stolplastik.pl
21:34:50  1933 sender_fullhost = xxxx.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl ([192.168.1.100]) [83.8.61.77]
21:34:50  1933 sender_rcvhost = xxxx.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl ([83.8.61.77] helo=[192.168.1.100])
21:34:50  1933 sender_local=0 ident=unset
21:34:50  1933 Non-recipients:
21:34:50  1933 Empty Tree
21:34:50  1933 ---- End of tree ----
21:34:50  1933 recipients_count=1
21:34:50  1933 body_linecount=1 message_linecount=15
21:34:50  1933 running system filter
21:34:50  1933 rda_interpret (file): /etc/system_filter.exim
21:34:50  1933 expanded: /etc/system_filter.exim
21:34:50  1933 10330 bytes read from /etc/system_filter.exim
21:34:50  1933 data is an Exim filter program
21:34:50  1933 Filter: start of processing
21:34:50  1933 Condition is true: not first_delivery
21:34:50  1933 Filter: finish
21:34:50  1933 Filtering did not set up a significant delivery.
21:34:50  1933 Normal delivery will occur.
21:34:50  1933 Filter: end of processing
21:34:50  1933 system filter returned 1
21:34:50  1933 Delivery address list:
21:34:50  1933   czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 locking /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:34:50  1933 locked /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:34:50  1933 EXIM_DBOPEN(/var/spool/exim/db/retry)
21:34:50  1933 returned from EXIM_DBOPEN
21:34:50  1933 opened hints database /var/spool/exim/db/retry: flags=O_RDONLY
21:34:50  1933 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
21:34:50  1933 Considering: czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 unique = czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 dbfn_read: key=R:wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 dbfn_read: key=R:czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 dbfn_read: key=R:czerep26@wp.pl:<xxx@stolplastik.pl>
21:34:50  1933 no domain retry record
21:34:50  1933 no address retry record
21:34:50  1933 czerep26@wp.pl: queued for routing
21:34:50  1933 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
21:34:50  1933 routing czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 --------> lookuphost router <--------
21:34:50  1933 local_part=czerep26 domain=wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 checking domains
21:34:50  1933 search_open: lsearch "/etc/virtual/domains"
21:34:50  1933 search_find: file="/etc/virtual/domains"
21:34:50  1933   key="wp.pl" partial=-1 affix=NULL starflags=0
21:34:50  1933 LRU list:
21:34:50  1933   5/etc/virtual/domains
21:34:50  1933   End
21:34:50  1933 internal_search_find: file="/etc/virtual/domains"
21:34:50  1933   type=lsearch key="wp.pl"
21:34:50  1933 file lookup required for wp.pl
21:34:50  1933   in /etc/virtual/domains
21:34:50  1933 lookup failed
21:34:50  1933 wp.pl in "lsearch;/etc/virtual/domains"? no (end of list)
21:34:50  1933 wp.pl in "! +local_domains"? yes (end of list)
21:34:50  1933 checking "condition"
21:34:50  1933 expanding: NULL
21:34:50  1933    result: NULL
21:34:50  1933 considering bool_lax: NULL
21:34:50  1933 expanding: check_limits
21:34:50  1933    result: check_limits
21:34:50  1933 Starting Perl interpreter
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $originator_uid
21:34:50  1933    result: 8
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $authenticated_id
21:34:50  1933    result: xxx@stolplastik.pl
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $sender_address
21:34:50  1933    result: xxx@stolplastik.pl
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $authenticated_id
21:34:50  1933    result: xxx@stolplastik.pl
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $sender_host_address
21:34:50  1933    result: 83.8.61.77
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $message_id
21:34:50  1933    result: 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $message_size
21:34:50  1933    result: 650
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $local_part
21:34:50  1933    result: czerep26
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $domain
21:34:50  1933    result: wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 expanding: $message_size
21:34:50  1933    result: 650
21:34:50  1933 expanding: ${perl{check_limits}}
21:34:50  1933    result: yes
21:34:50  1933 considering bool_lax: yes
21:34:50  1933 condition: and{{bool_lax{NULL}}{bool_lax{${perl{check_limits}}}}}
21:34:50  1933    result: true
21:34:50  1933 expanding: ${if and{{bool_lax{NULL}}{bool_lax{${perl{check_limits}}}}}}
21:34:50  1933    result: true
21:34:50  1933 calling lookuphost router
21:34:50  1933 lookuphost router called for czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933   domain = wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 DNS lookup of wp.pl (MX) succeeded
21:34:50  1933 DNS lookup of mx.wp.pl (AAAA) gave NO_DATA
21:34:50  1933 returning DNS_NODATA
21:34:50  1933 DNS lookup of mx.wp.pl (A) succeeded
21:34:50  1933 212.77.101.4 in "127.0.0.0/8"? no (end of list)
21:34:50  1933 DNS lookup of mx5.wp.pl (AAAA) gave NO_DATA
21:34:50  1933 returning DNS_NODATA
21:34:50  1933 DNS lookup of mx5.wp.pl (A) succeeded
21:34:50  1933 212.77.101.9 in "127.0.0.0/8"? no (end of list)
21:34:50  1933 Actual local interface address is 127.0.0.1 (lo)
21:34:50  1933 Actual local interface address is 37.59.52.121 (eth0)
21:34:50  1933 Actual local interface address is 94.23.95.54 (eth0:0)
21:34:50  1933 Actual local interface address is 2001:41d0:8:6f79::1 (eth0)
21:34:50  1933 Actual local interface address is ::1 (lo)
21:34:50  1933 Actual local interface address is fe80::4e72:b9ff:fe26:46d0 (eth0)
21:34:50  1933 fully qualified name = wp.pl
21:34:50  1933 host_find_bydns yield = HOST_FOUND (2); returned hosts:
21:34:50  1933   mx.wp.pl 212.77.101.4 MX=0
21:34:50  1933   mx5.wp.pl 212.77.101.9 MX=5
21:34:50  1933 set transport remote_smtp
21:34:50  1933 queued for remote_smtp transport: local_part = czerep26
21:34:50  1933 domain = wp.pl
21:34:50  1933   errors_to=NULL
21:34:50  1933   domain_data=NULL localpart_data=NULL
21:34:50  1933 routed by lookuphost router
21:34:50  1933   envelope to: czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933   transport: remote_smtp
21:34:50  1933   host mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4] MX=0
21:34:50  1933   host mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9] MX=5
21:34:50  1933 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
21:34:50  1933 After routing:
21:34:50  1933   Local deliveries:
21:34:50  1933   Remote deliveries:
21:34:50  1933     czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1933   Failed addresses:
21:34:50  1933   Deferred addresses:
21:34:50  1933 search_tidyup called
21:34:50  1933 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remote deliveries >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
21:34:50  1933 --------> czerep26@wp.pl <--------
21:34:50  1933 search_tidyup called
21:34:50  1933 set_process_info:  1933 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54: waiting for a remote delivery subprocess to finish
21:34:50  1933 selecting on subprocess pipes
21:34:50  1935 changed uid/gid: remote delivery to czerep26@wp.pl with transport=remote_smtp
21:34:50  1935   uid=8 gid=8 pid=1935
21:34:50  1935   auxiliary group list: <none>
21:34:50  1935 set_process_info:  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54 using remote_smtp
21:34:50  1935 remote_smtp transport entered
21:34:50  1935   czerep26@wp.pl
21:34:50  1935 checking status of mx.wp.pl
21:34:50  1935 locking /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:34:50  1935 locked /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:34:50  1935 EXIM_DBOPEN(/var/spool/exim/db/retry)
21:34:50  1935 returned from EXIM_DBOPEN
21:34:50  1935 opened hints database /var/spool/exim/db/retry: flags=O_RDONLY
21:34:50  1935 dbfn_read: key=T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4
21:34:50  1935 dbfn_read: key=T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4:1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:34:50  1935 no message retry record
21:34:50  1935 mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4] status = usable
21:34:50  1935 212.77.101.4 in serialize_hosts? no (option unset)
21:34:50  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54 to mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4] (czerep26@wp.pl)
21:34:50  1935 set_process_info:  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54 to mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4] (czerep26@wp.pl)
21:34:50  1935 Connecting to mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4]:25 ... failed: Connection timed out (timeout=5m)
21:35:11  1935 LOG: MAIN
21:35:11  1935   mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4] Connection timed out
21:35:11  1935 set_process_info:  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54: just tried mx.wp.pl [212.77.101.4] for czerep26@wp.pl: result DEFER
21:35:11  1935 added retry item for T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4: errno=110 more_errno=1,M flags=2
21:35:11  1935 address match test: subject=*@mx.wp.pl pattern=*
21:35:11  1935 mx.wp.pl in "*"? yes (matched "*")
21:35:11  1935 *@mx.wp.pl in "*"? yes (matched "*")
21:35:11  1935 checking status of mx5.wp.pl
21:35:11  1935 locking /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:35:11  1935 locked /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:35:11  1935 EXIM_DBOPEN(/var/spool/exim/db/retry)
21:35:11  1935 returned from EXIM_DBOPEN
21:35:11  1935 opened hints database /var/spool/exim/db/retry: flags=O_RDONLY
21:35:11  1935 dbfn_read: key=T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9
21:35:11  1935 dbfn_read: key=T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9:1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:35:11  1935 no message retry record
21:35:11  1935 mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9] status = usable
21:35:11  1935 212.77.101.9 in serialize_hosts? no (option unset)
21:35:11  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54 to mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9] (czerep26@wp.pl)
21:35:11  1935 set_process_info:  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54 to mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9] (czerep26@wp.pl)
21:35:11  1935 Connecting to mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9]:25 ... failed: Connection timed out (timeout=5m)
21:35:32  1935 LOG: MAIN
21:35:32  1935   mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9] Connection timed out
21:35:32  1935 set_process_info:  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54: just tried mx5.wp.pl [212.77.101.9] for czerep26@wp.pl: result DEFER
21:35:32  1935 added retry item for T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9: errno=110 more_errno=1,M flags=2
21:35:32  1935 all IP addresses skipped or deferred at least one address
21:35:32  1935 updating wait-remote_smtp database
21:35:32  1935 locking /var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile
21:35:32  1935 locked /var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile
21:35:32  1935 EXIM_DBOPEN(/var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp)
21:35:32  1935 returned from EXIM_DBOPEN
21:35:32  1935 opened hints database /var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp: flags=O_RDWR
21:35:32  1935 dbfn_read: key=mx.wp.pl
21:35:32  1935 already listed for mx.wp.pl
21:35:32  1935 dbfn_read: key=mx5.wp.pl
21:35:32  1935 already listed for mx5.wp.pl
21:35:32  1935 Leaving remote_smtp transport
21:35:32  1935 set_process_info:  1935 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54 (just run remote_smtp for czerep26@wp.pl in subprocess)
21:35:32  1935 search_tidyup called
21:35:32  1933 reading pipe for subprocess 1935 (not ended)
21:35:32  1933 read() yielded 126
21:35:32  1933 reading retry information for T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9 from subprocess
21:35:32  1933   added retry item
21:35:32  1933 reading retry information for T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4 from subprocess
21:35:32  1933   added retry item
21:35:32  1933 Z0 item read
21:35:32  1933 remote delivery process 1935 ended
21:35:32  1933 set_process_info:  1933 delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:35:32  1933 post-process czerep26@wp.pl (1)
21:35:32  1933 LOG: MAIN
21:35:32  1933   == czerep26@wp.pl R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (110): Connection timed out
21:35:32  1933 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliveries are done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
21:35:32  1933 changed uid/gid: post-delivery tidying
21:35:32  1933   uid=8 gid=8 pid=1933
21:35:32  1933   auxiliary group list: <none>
21:35:32  1933 set_process_info:  1933 tidying up after delivering 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:35:32  1933 Processing retry items
21:35:32  1933 Succeeded addresses:
21:35:32  1933 Failed addresses:
21:35:32  1933 Deferred addresses:
21:35:32  1933 czerep26@wp.pl
21:35:32  1933 locking /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:35:32  1933 locked /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile
21:35:32  1933 EXIM_DBOPEN(/var/spool/exim/db/retry)
21:35:32  1933 returned from EXIM_DBOPEN
21:35:32  1933 opened hints database /var/spool/exim/db/retry: flags=O_RDWR
21:35:32  1933 address match test: subject=*@mx.wp.pl pattern=*
21:35:32  1933 mx.wp.pl in "*"? yes (matched "*")
21:35:32  1933 *@mx.wp.pl in "*"? yes (matched "*")
21:35:32  1933 retry for T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4 (wp.pl) = * 0 0
21:35:32  1933 dbfn_read: key=T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4
21:35:32  1933 failing_interval=200815 message_age=26747
21:35:32  1933 Writing retry data for T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4
21:35:32  1933   first failed=1385470117 last try=1385670932 next try=1385699732 expired=0
21:35:32  1933   errno=110 more_errno=1,M Connection timed out
21:35:32  1933 dbfn_write: key=T:mx.wp.pl:212.77.101.4
21:35:32  1933 address match test: subject=*@mx5.wp.pl pattern=*
21:35:32  1933 mx5.wp.pl in "*"? yes (matched "*")
21:35:32  1933 *@mx5.wp.pl in "*"? yes (matched "*")
21:35:32  1933 retry for T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9 (wp.pl) = * 0 0
21:35:32  1933 dbfn_read: key=T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9
21:35:32  1933 failing_interval=200815 message_age=26747
21:35:32  1933 Writing retry data for T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9
21:35:32  1933   first failed=1385470117 last try=1385670932 next try=1385699732 expired=0
21:35:32  1933   errno=110 more_errno=1,M Connection timed out
21:35:32  1933 dbfn_write: key=T:mx5.wp.pl:212.77.101.9
21:35:32  1933 end of retry processing
21:35:32  1933 expanding: $h_list-id:$h_list-post:$h_list-subscribe:
21:35:32  1933    result:
21:35:32  1933 expanding:
21:35:32  1933    result:
21:35:32  1933 expanding: $h_precedence:
21:35:32  1933    result:
21:35:32  1933 expanding: (?i)bulk|list|junk
21:35:32  1933    result: (?i)bulk|list|junk
21:35:32  1933 expanding: $h_auto-submitted:
21:35:32  1933    result:
21:35:32  1933 expanding: (?i)auto-generated|auto-replied
21:35:32  1933    result: (?i)auto-generated|auto-replied
21:35:32  1933 condition: or {{ !eq{$h_list-id:$h_list-post:$h_list-subscribe:}{} }{ match{$h_precedence:}{(?i)bulk|list|junk} }{ match{$h_auto-submitted:}{(?i)auto-generated|auto-replied} }}
21:35:32  1933    result: false
21:35:32  1933 expanding: no
21:35:32  1933    result: no
21:35:32  1933 skipping: result is not used
21:35:32  1933 expanding: yes
21:35:32  1933    result: yes
21:35:32  1933 expanding: ${if or {{ !eq{$h_list-id:$h_list-post:$h_list-subscribe:}{} }{ match{$h_precedence:}{(?i)bulk|list|junk} }{ match{$h_auto-submitted:}{(?i)auto-generated|auto-replied} }} {no}{yes}}
21:35:32  1933    result: yes
21:35:32  1933 time on queue = 7h26m29s
21:35:32  1933 warning counts: required 0 done 0
21:35:32  1933 delivery deferred: update_spool=0 header_rewritten=0
21:35:32  1933 end delivery of 1Vm1L5-0002JF-54
21:35:32  1933 search_tidyup called
21:35:32  1933 search_tidyup called
21:35:32  1933 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exim pid=1933 terminating with rc=0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Proszę pomóżcie bo już naprawdę nie wiem czego szukać.

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sprawdź

 

telnet mx.wp.pl 25

 

czy możesz "rozmawiać" z serwerem smtp

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Zapomniałem powiedzieć już sprawdzałem i niestety nie mogę oczywiście sprawdzałem na włączonym jak i wyłączonym firewall'u.

telnet mx.wp.pl 25
Trying 212.77.101.4...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
 telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25
Trying 2a00:1450:400c:c05::1b...
Connected to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mx.google.com ESMTP ga9si8403155wic.12 - gsmtp
quit
221 2.0.0 closing connection ga9si8403155wic.12 - gsmtp
Connection closed by foreign host.

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Najszybciej to spodziewał bym się że coś ovh znów namotało i stąd te problemy. Co do routingu na IPv4 to ni cholery nie idzie spingować żadnej domeny ani też zrobić traceroute.

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Spróbuj spingować ip ipv4, sprawdź dnsy jakich używasz, sprawdź bramę.

 

Sprawdziłem u mnie emaile dochodzą z ovh poprawnie, co nie znaczy że ovh coś nie namieszało. Zerknij tez w panel ovh, czy blokada antyspamowa nie załączyła się.

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Nie pozostaje mi nic innego jak zgłosić do ovh, bo każde traceroute kończy na pierwszym hopie a więc na routerze ovh.

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Trying 37.59.52.121...
Connected to 37.59.52.121.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 **** ESMTP Exim 4.82 Thu, *******
ehlo helo.pl
250-***********.pl Hello ***********
250-SIZE 20971520
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250-STARTTLS
250 HELP
quit
221 ***********************.pl closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.

Dziwne, bo połaczenia przychodzące działają poprawnie. Spróbuj zrestartować dedyka.

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Maile przychodzą normalnie ale żeby w drugą stronę to nic z tego poza tymi co mają IPv6, IPv4 kompletna blokada.

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Sprawdzałem ping też nie idzie. Blokady na bank nie ma co to pierwsze sprawdzałem.post-10806-0-32678300-1385677352_thumb.jpg

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Maile przychodzą normalnie ale żeby w drugą stronę to nic z tego poza tymi co mają IPv6, IPv4 kompletna blokada.

 

To chyba ta nowa zabawka ovh jak wykryje spam z dedyka to blokowany jest 25 port, jeden z klientów kilka dni temu takiego e-maila dostał.

 

Jak nie dostałeś takiego emaila to pisz do nich może coś sknociło się.

 

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Ta tylko że u mnie problem dotyczy chyba wszystkich portów bo nawet jak chce wget pobrać stronę to jest Connection timeout.

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